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'light, fey sense of humor' and more unlikely stories about him.
'light, fey sense of humor' and more unlikely stories about him.


2:10: Joe asks the man about his claim that Hitler was a woman, which
2:40 A man ([[Ryan Cutrona]]) travels on interstates and other metaphorical highways.
 
4:20 A man ([[Tim Jerome]]) puts words together to form sentences, but they don’t have intrinsic value; if we don’t have intrinsic value, we don’t have extrinsic existence.
 
7:30: Joe asks the man about his claim that Hitler was a woman, which
he affirms, then tells other unlikely stories about him.
he affirms, then tells other unlikely stories about him.


4:40: A man ([[Ryan Cutrona]]) tells about the things he has been
10:10: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells about the things he has been
(holy, evil, rich, very wealthy…), then the places he has been
(holy, evil, rich, very wealthy…), then the places he has been
(Indianapolis, Korea, Venezuela, Baton Rouge, the Moon).  Then he says
(Indianapolis, Korea, Venezuela, Baton Rouge, the Moon).  Then he says
some things he wants to talk about - but doesn't.
some things he wants to talk about - but doesn't.


5:40: A man ([[Tim Jerome]]?) talks about confusion, then god, then
11:10: A man (Tim Jerome) talks about confusion, then god, then
watching a woman doing something she should or shouldn't through a
watching a woman doing something she should or shouldn't through a
window, whether or not you are doing what you should.
window, whether or not you are doing what you should.


8:40: Train sounds.
14:40: A man (Arthur Miller) talks about how Freud was a depressed, lonely, lost man, due to a childhood bicycle accident. Freud really wanted to be a shoe salesman.


9:00: Joe talks to a man ([[Arthur Miller]]) who taught at Princeton,
18:40 A man (Ryan Cutrona) says there are people who are no longer around, and people who are outside the law.
 
19:20 A man (Tim Jerome) lists the crimes he has committed.
 
22:00: Joe talks to a man (Arthur Miller) who taught at Princeton,
knew Einstein, tells unlikely stories about him, including Einstein's affair
knew Einstein, tells unlikely stories about him, including Einstein's affair
with Marilyn Monroe.
with Marilyn Monroe.


11:30: A man ([[Ryan Cutrona]]) tells all the things he's seen god
24:30: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells all the things he's seen god
in.
in.


13:40: A man ([[Tim Jerome]]) tells unlikely stories about Sigmund
26:40: A man (Tim Jerome) tells unlikely stories about Sigmund
Freud.
Freud.


15:50: Joe asks a man ([[Arthur Miller]]) about Picasso's relationship
29:00: Joe asks a man (Arthur Miller) about Picasso's relationship
with Gertrude Stein, allegedly an explosive affair.
with Gertrude Stein, allegedly an explosive affair.


18:50: A woman <ref>German accent, real according to a
32:00 A man (Ryan Cutrona) lists the crimes he has committed.
 
34:00: A woman<ref>German accent, real according to a
correspondent on Reddit - I don't think it's Julie Renick, the only
correspondent on Reddit - I don't think it's Julie Renick, the only
woman mentioned in the cast</ref> talks about songs Marlene Dietrich sang.<ref>The first
woman mentioned in the cast</ref> talks about songs Marlene Dietrich sang.<ref>The first
song is 'Ach, Fräulein Annie wohnt schon lang nicht hier', 'Annie
song is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3tnUBwt74M 'Ach, Fräulein Annie wohnt schon lang nicht hier'], [https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/marlene-dietrich/annie-doesnt-live-here-anymore-g43e71b7b.html 'Annie doesn't live here anymore']; the second song is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6aKAMYDHk 'Wenn ich mir was wünschen dürfte'], [https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/marlene-dietrich/wenn-ich-mir-was-wunschen-durfte-1bc2595c.html 'If I could wish for something'].  Dietrich sang both.</ref>
doesn't live here anymore',
https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/marlene-dietrich/annie-doesnt-live-here-anymore-g43e71b7b.html
, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3tnUBwt74M ; the second song is
'Wenn ich mir was wünschen dürfte',
https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/marlene-dietrich/wenn-ich-mir-was-wunschen-durfte-1bc2595c.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6aKAMYDHk .  Dietrich sang both.</ref>


22:00: A man ([[Arthur Miller]]) tells about attending a costume party
37:20: A man (Arthur Miller) tells about attending a costume party
in New York City dressed as Marlene Dietrich did for <i>The Blue
in New York City dressed as Marlene Dietrich did for <i>The Blue
Angel</i>, where he meets her and has a relationship with her when she
Angel</i>, where he meets her and has a relationship with her when she
was in her 50s.<ref>She was born in 1901.</ref>
was in her 50s.<ref>She was born in 1901.</ref>


26:50: A man ([[Ryan Cutrona]]) tells about Hitler's life as a little
42:10: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells about Hitler's life as a little
girl, goes on about why we haven't been told Hitler was a woman.
girl, goes on about why we haven't been told Hitler was a woman.


28:30: A man ([[Nick Ullett]]?) talks about Costa Frangapelli's
43:50: A man (Tim Jerome) complains about his childhood.
<ref>fictional, I'm pretty sure</ref>
studies of the flow of time, that no
reality could exist without time stopping.  Man #2 ([[Arthur Miller]])
says that music exists in time.  Man #3 (fake German accent -
[[Tim Jerome]]?)  says that we have to understand silence to
understand music.<ref name=CaseStudies>originally in [[Case Studies]]</ref>
 
30:20: This panel talks about beauty.<ref name=CaseStudies />
 
31:50: The panel returns to talking about music and silence, then that
we are terrified by unbounded things.<ref name=CaseStudies />
 
34:30: A man tells about when he was in Amsterdam, looking for death.
A woman asks him why he didn't kill himself.  A panel
([[Arthur Miller]] and [[Tim Jerome]]?) talk about death and shaving.
 
36:40: A man repeats 'no' forcefully, a woman tries to get him to do
it; he says he can't, pleads that she not make him do it.  They don't
tell us what 'it' is.
 
37:50: The woman moans along with a jazz saxophone.


38:30: A man tells us about trouble he has falling asleep.
45:30: A man (?) talks about his father’s life.
Others talk about how you know whether you're asleep or awake.
There's a party in the background.


39:20: A man yawns and eructates; a woman laughs.
51:00: A man (Arthur Miller) lists the crimes he has committed.


40:20: The panel talks about what nothing is; one dreamed that he was
54:20: A man (Ryan Cutrona) talks about when he lived in Vienna
in a coffin.
 
41:50: A woman makes some noises.
 
42:00: Joe asks if time is linear or circular.  The panel responds,
not agreeing with each other.<ref name=CaseStudies />
 
46:20: The panel talks about time more.<ref name=CaseStudies /> 
 
48:30: Joe says that Spinoza thought that a stone that was set in
motion would think it was moving of its own wish, asks if people
believe they're free when they're not.  The panel discusses.  They
imagine stones writing up their experiences, publishing a
journal.<ref name=CaseStudies />
 
53:40: A man ([[Ryan Cutrona]]) talks about when he lived in Vienna
and hung out at cafés with Freud, often saw Stalin, then Einstein and
and hung out at cafés with Freud, often saw Stalin, then Einstein and
Marilyn Monroe; Picasso drew portraits on the street.  He claims
Marilyn Monroe; Picasso drew portraits on the street.  He claims
Eleanor Roosevelt turned his life around.
Eleanor Roosevelt turned his life around.


56:20: A woman ([[Julie Renick]]) sings 'You do something to me' in a
57:10: A woman ([[Julie Renick]]) sings 'You do something to me' in a
fake German accent, impersonating Marlene Dietrich.
fake German accent, impersonating Marlene Dietrich.
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%; overflow:auto;">
<div style="font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">Legacy Synopsis</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
The jovial side of Stalin. Hitler was a woman.  Old man monologue- "I have been;" speaking about astronauts, cashew nuts, engineering.  Confusion is created by god - trying to stop a woman from doing something she should not be doing.  Einstein the bitter wash up, an obsession with going backwards, dating Marilyn Monroe.  Old man ([[Ryan Cutrona]]) "I've seen god" in household objects monologue. Freud was in it to meet women.  Picasso dates Gertrude Stein. Picasso as the link between modern art and contemporary marketing. Description of the young Marlene Dietrich.  Discussion of an affair with the "multi-sexual" Dietrich who falls for a statue, becomes obsessed with going backwards, has an affair with Sammy Davis Junior.  Old man: Hitler was a woman.  Panel discussion: music as reality, the book "sound and nonsense," measuring beauty as ship-launching potential, traveling and looking for death, the face in the mirror. Drum solo.  Panicked man begs "don't make me do it" accompanied by a bizarre moaning soundtrack. Panel discussion: falling asleep while falling asleep. A man moans and strains while a woman giggles, being buried alive. A woman moans.  Panel discussion: the nature of time, life as a series of experiments, Spinoza's stones in motion.  Old man: being in a cafe full of famous people.  Woman singing show tunes, coached by Joe.
</div></div>


== Music ==
== Music ==
{{Music-Stub}}
{{Music-Stub}}
{{The Animals (Jan Hammer)}} [5:48]
{{The Animals (Jan Hammer)}} [5:48]{{Unidentified|id=Music+chanting at 19:55}}
{{Call It Love (Yello)}} [27:31] {{Unidentified|id=need to identify music at ~20m & ~45m}} <!--{{Skin Deep (Duke Ellington)}}-->
{{Call It Love (Yello)}} [27:31] {{Unidentified|id=need to identify music at 45:30}}
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Do_Something_to_Me_(Cole_Porter_song) "You Do Something To Me"] - song composed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Porter Cole Porter], tremulously sung by Julie Renick [56:11]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Do_Something_to_Me_(Cole_Porter_song) "You Do Something To Me"] - song composed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Porter Cole Porter], tremulously sung by Julie Renick [56:11]


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* [[Reprise]]
* [[Reprise]]
* [[Great Lives (Remix)]]
* [[Great Lives (Remix)]]
* [[Case Studies ]]


== Additional credits ==
== Additional credits ==
The original broadcast credits state: "With [[Arthur Miller]], [[Ryan Cutrona]], [[Tim Jerome]], [[Julie Renick]], and Joe Frank. This program was recorded at Westrax Recording Studios in New York City and at KCRW in Santa Monica."
The original broadcast credits state: "With [[Arthur Miller]], [[Ryan Cutrona]], [[Tim Jerome]], [[Julie Renick]], and Joe Frank. This program was recorded at Westrax Recording Studios in New York City and at KCRW in Santa Monica."


The version released by JoeFrankTheater on YouTube on 2021 August 22 includes [[Nick Ullett]] in the cast.
== Miscellanea ==
The programs "Great Lives" and "Great Lives (Remix)" from [http://joefrank.com joefrank.com] are identical, but KCRW originally broadcast a slightly longer version of the program.


== Commentary ==
== Commentary ==
Most of the panel segments are also in 'Case studies'.  They
sound of a piece; I speculate that they were recorded at the same
time, that Joe didn't use all of them in 1986 ('Case studies').[[User:Arthur Peabody|Arthur Peabody]] ([[User talk:Arthur Peabody|talk]]) 17:59, 23 August 2021 (EDT)
Thanks to people in the German subreddit for help identifying
Thanks to people in the German subreddit for help identifying
the 2 Marlene Dietrich songs mentioned at 19 minutes; one said her
the 2 Marlene Dietrich songs mentioned at 34 minutes; one said her
voice is authentically German.[[User:Arthur Peabody|Arthur Peabody]] ([[User talk:Arthur Peabody|talk]]) 17:59, 23 August 2021 (EDT)
voice is authentically German.[[User:Arthur Peabody|Arthur Peabody]] ([[User talk:Arthur Peabody|talk]]) 17:59, 23 August 2021 (EDT)


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[[Category:Work In Progress]]

Latest revision as of 11:52, 4 November 2024

Series
Work In Progress
Original Broadcast Date
1989
Cast
Arthur Miller, Ryan Cutrona, Tim Jerome, Julie Renick, Joe Frank
Format
Improv Actors, Absurd Monologue, 59 minutes
Preceded by: Bad
Followed by: Great Lives (Remix)
Stream free or Purchase

"Well of course, Stalin was a very amusing man."

Great Lives is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series Work In Progress. It was originally broadcast in 1989.

Synopsis

The sound of a train, coming to a stop.

A man (Arthur Miller), says that Stalin was very amusing with a 'light, fey sense of humor' and more unlikely stories about him.

2:40 A man (Ryan Cutrona) travels on interstates and other metaphorical highways.

4:20 A man (Tim Jerome) puts words together to form sentences, but they don’t have intrinsic value; if we don’t have intrinsic value, we don’t have extrinsic existence.

7:30: Joe asks the man about his claim that Hitler was a woman, which he affirms, then tells other unlikely stories about him.

10:10: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells about the things he has been (holy, evil, rich, very wealthy…), then the places he has been (Indianapolis, Korea, Venezuela, Baton Rouge, the Moon). Then he says some things he wants to talk about - but doesn't.

11:10: A man (Tim Jerome) talks about confusion, then god, then watching a woman doing something she should or shouldn't through a window, whether or not you are doing what you should.

14:40: A man (Arthur Miller) talks about how Freud was a depressed, lonely, lost man, due to a childhood bicycle accident. Freud really wanted to be a shoe salesman.

18:40 A man (Ryan Cutrona) says there are people who are no longer around, and people who are outside the law.

19:20 A man (Tim Jerome) lists the crimes he has committed.

22:00: Joe talks to a man (Arthur Miller) who taught at Princeton, knew Einstein, tells unlikely stories about him, including Einstein's affair with Marilyn Monroe.

24:30: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells all the things he's seen god in.

26:40: A man (Tim Jerome) tells unlikely stories about Sigmund Freud.

29:00: Joe asks a man (Arthur Miller) about Picasso's relationship with Gertrude Stein, allegedly an explosive affair.

32:00 A man (Ryan Cutrona) lists the crimes he has committed.

34:00: A woman[1] talks about songs Marlene Dietrich sang.[2]

37:20: A man (Arthur Miller) tells about attending a costume party in New York City dressed as Marlene Dietrich did for The Blue Angel, where he meets her and has a relationship with her when she was in her 50s.[3]

42:10: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells about Hitler's life as a little girl, goes on about why we haven't been told Hitler was a woman.

43:50: A man (Tim Jerome) complains about his childhood.

45:30: A man (?) talks about his father’s life.

51:00: A man (Arthur Miller) lists the crimes he has committed.

54:20: A man (Ryan Cutrona) talks about when he lived in Vienna and hung out at cafés with Freud, often saw Stalin, then Einstein and Marilyn Monroe; Picasso drew portraits on the street. He claims Eleanor Roosevelt turned his life around.

57:10: A woman (Julie Renick) sings 'You do something to me' in a fake German accent, impersonating Marlene Dietrich.

Music

This is an incomplete record of the music in this program. If you can add more information, please do.

Shared material

Additional credits

The original broadcast credits state: "With Arthur Miller, Ryan Cutrona, Tim Jerome, Julie Renick, and Joe Frank. This program was recorded at Westrax Recording Studios in New York City and at KCRW in Santa Monica."

Miscellanea

The programs "Great Lives" and "Great Lives (Remix)" from joefrank.com are identical, but KCRW originally broadcast a slightly longer version of the program.

Commentary

Thanks to people in the German subreddit for help identifying the 2 Marlene Dietrich songs mentioned at 34 minutes; one said her voice is authentically German.Arthur Peabody (talk) 17:59, 23 August 2021 (EDT)

Footnotes

  1. German accent, real according to a correspondent on Reddit - I don't think it's Julie Renick, the only woman mentioned in the cast
  2. The first song is 'Ach, Fräulein Annie wohnt schon lang nicht hier', 'Annie doesn't live here anymore'; the second song is 'Wenn ich mir was wünschen dürfte', 'If I could wish for something'. Dietrich sang both.
  3. She was born in 1901.