Fire And Ice

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Fire and Ice[1]
The Other Side
Original Broadcast Date
Debi Mae West, Larry Block, Kristine McKenna, Joe Frank
Karma Style, 57 minutes
Preceded by: Where Will It End?
Followed by: The Angina Dialogues

"So anyway last night we go to Mandalay, and it's like on Friday nights they have this..."

Fire and Ice is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series The Other Side. It was originally broadcast on March 4, 2001.


  • Debi Mae West - her boyfriend tells his wife about their relationship.
  • Larry Block - while driving under the influence of valium and liquor he hits a police car. Joe talks about doing the same thing when told he might have a brain tumor.
  • Debi - she chants and sings with her boyfriend
  • Larry and Joe - Mike Wallace's depression. A critique of using medication to treat psychological problems. The value of understanding one's problems.
  • Kristine McKenna - Everyone she knows is carrying around life changing trauma. Dating a timid man who doesn't love her. They break up, she is haunted by his stuff, sneaks into his apartment.
  • Larry - His family confronts him about his drug use. He spends a day sober, has a conversation while headed to a liquor store that convinces him to stay clean, then falls off the wagon immediately.
  • Larry - a poem "to a woman of a certain age."



  1. "Zion", a reworked version of "Bullet (Bitten)", was heard two years later during the "cave rave" scene of The Matrix Reloaded.