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'''Lies''' is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series [[WBAI And NPR Playhouse]]. It was originally broadcast in [[:Category:1982|1982]].
'''Lies''' is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series [[WBAI And NPR Playhouse]]. It was originally broadcast in [[:Category:1982|1982]].
'Lies' is available at the Joe Frank channel on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIG636ri4r8


== Synopsis ==
== Synopsis ==
A guy tries to avoid the draft by claiming he took LSD.
3:20: Joe tells of someone (unnamed) serving in Vietnam in Army
intelligence.
15:40: A fellow remembers covering the big anti-war Mayday
demonstration in DC.<ref>Must have been 1971
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_May_Day_protests</ref> A woman
threw them her key so they (he and his photographer) could escape a
police sweep.
20:20: Joe tells of 2 radical co-eds at Berkeley who participate in
all sorts of protest movements, anticipate a coming revolution.  They
stage a bank robbery to demonstrate the weakness of 'the system'.
They kill a guard, go on the lam.  They go to a small Oregon town
where they live as 'lower-middle-class average American women' and
suppress their political opinions, then move to a city, then a
farmhouse.  They become lovers.  They move between small towns every
few months.<ref>This is similar to the stories of Susan Edith Saxe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Edith_Saxe and Katherine Ann Power
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Ann_Power</ref>
29:40: A fellow says most people's pain results from self-absorption.
When politics was important to him and the war was raging; he imagined
confronting Mendel Rivers, chairman of the House armed services
committee.<ref>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Mendel_Rivers</ref>
He sees Rivers on a flight, talking with his daughter, felt his
humanity, left him alone.<ref>Rivers died in 1970, so this had to have
preceded the 1971 protests.</ref>
32:30: Joe tells story of fellow meeting a girl in a deli then
visiting her.  She has a room-mate who makes plaster sculptures of
bagels and cream cheese.  She repeatedly flirts then withdraws; he
doesn't believe the stories she tells.<ref>The writer of Martin
Scorsese's <i>After hours</i> plagiarized this story
http://andrewhearst.com/blog/2008/05/the_scandalous_origins_of_martin_scorseses_after_hours
</ref>
44:20: Joe's a night watchman.  He invites the boss for dinner,
poisons him, gets his job; the new night watchman poisons him at
dinner.<ref>Joe re-uses the sounds of the business in [[Black Light]].</ref>
<ref>A version of this story was aired in <i>All things
considered</i> when Joe hosted it </ref>
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<div style="font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">Legacy Synopsis</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
* A guy avoids the draft by pretending to take drugs.
* A guy avoids the draft by pretending to take drugs.
* A military intelligence officer at a translation center in Vietnam during the war.
* A military intelligence officer at a translation center in Vietnam during the war.
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* Scenes from the office - a board room filled with terror, one with giggling idiots, a woman shouts colors against a background of machinery.   
* Scenes from the office - a board room filled with terror, one with giggling idiots, a woman shouts colors against a background of machinery.   
* Joe buries his boss and takes his place.  
* Joe buries his boss and takes his place.  
</div></div>


== Music ==  
== Music ==  
{{Ceres Motion (Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co.)}} [3:06]
{{Ceres Motion (Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co.)}} [3:06] The background music for the Vietnam war segment.
{{T on a White Horse (Eberhard Weber)}} [23:18]
{{T on a White Horse (Eberhard Weber)}} [23:18]
{{Part One (Philip Glass)}} [33:31]
{{Part One (Philip Glass)}} [33:31] The girl in the deli segment.
{{Music For 18 Musicians (Steve Reich)}} [50:49]
{{Music For 18 Musicians (Steve Reich)}} [50:49] The background music for most of the 'Night watchman' segment.
{{I Will Wait For You (Mantovani)}} [55:22]
{{I Will Wait For You (Mantovani)}} [55:22] The background music for the 2 dinner scenes in the 'Night watchman' segment.


== Shared material ==
== Shared material ==
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* Joe's response to an "After Hours" question on his user forum in 2007:<blockquote>"Lies" was a show produced for National Public Radio in 1982. It included a ten-minute segment about an encounter years earlier with a strange young woman in Greenwich Village. I was living in Washington, D.C. at the time of the broadcast, producing programs for NPR. In September 1985 a friend called from New York. He asked if I'd seen Scorsese's new film, "After Hours." I told him it hadn't yet opened in D.C. He said, "Fly up to New York today and see it. It will be worth it." He wouldn't explain why.<br>So I took a cab to National Airport, caught the next flight to La Guardia, took another cab to the movie theater in Manhattan and saw the film. It was an astonishing experience because, within the first few minutes, I observed the identical story from my radio show unfolding on the screen word for word. Let me add, however, that having used my story as the foundation for his screenplay, the remainder of the film was the work of the writer. It's an exaggeration to suggest the entire film was based on my radio show. But I didn't know until your post that the original title had been "Lies." What must the screenwriter have been thinking to place himself in such jeopardy?<br>In any case, I had not yet met Larry Block in 1982, so it was a surprise to find, years later, that we both had a connection to "After Hours."<br>Scorsese is a great American film director and "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull" are classics. But I thought "After Hours" was inferior. Maybe the film was too close for me to see clearly.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080117140145/http://joefrank.com/forum3.html JoeFrank.com forum]. March 5, 2007.</ref></blockquote>
* Joe's response to an "After Hours" question on his user forum in 2007:<blockquote>"Lies" was a show produced for National Public Radio in 1982. It included a ten-minute segment about an encounter years earlier with a strange young woman in Greenwich Village. I was living in Washington, D.C. at the time of the broadcast, producing programs for NPR. In September 1985 a friend called from New York. He asked if I'd seen Scorsese's new film, "After Hours." I told him it hadn't yet opened in D.C. He said, "Fly up to New York today and see it. It will be worth it." He wouldn't explain why.<br>So I took a cab to National Airport, caught the next flight to La Guardia, took another cab to the movie theater in Manhattan and saw the film. It was an astonishing experience because, within the first few minutes, I observed the identical story from my radio show unfolding on the screen word for word. Let me add, however, that having used my story as the foundation for his screenplay, the remainder of the film was the work of the writer. It's an exaggeration to suggest the entire film was based on my radio show. But I didn't know until your post that the original title had been "Lies." What must the screenwriter have been thinking to place himself in such jeopardy?<br>In any case, I had not yet met Larry Block in 1982, so it was a surprise to find, years later, that we both had a connection to "After Hours."<br>Scorsese is a great American film director and "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull" are classics. But I thought "After Hours" was inferior. Maybe the film was too close for me to see clearly.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080117140145/http://joefrank.com/forum3.html JoeFrank.com forum]. March 5, 2007.</ref></blockquote>
== Commentary ==
* The only women's voices are people working at the night watchman's business.  I think the same actor speaks the first and third segment, perhaps the fifth.  Mark Hammer was old enough to have had their experiences and lived in Washington at the time.  I don't hear Tim Jerome or Arthur Miller in them; I don't know F. Murray Abraham's voice well enough to guess.[[User:Arthur Peabody|Arthur Peabody]] ([[User talk:Arthur Peabody|talk]]) 20:06, 2 July 2021 (EDT)


== External links ==
== External links ==

Revision as of 16:06, 2 July 2021

Lies[1]
Series
WBAI And NPR Playhouse
Original Broadcast Date
3/06/1982
Cast
Mark Hammer, F. Murray Abraham, Barbara Sohmers, Christina Moore, Tim Jerome, Arthur Miller, Jane Hunt, Joe Frank
Format
56 minutes
Preceded by: The Decline Of Spengler
Followed by: Sales

"At some point when I was in high school I lost my draft card, and my folks changed houses, and I think there was a period of two years there, or three years, or four years, when the Army lost me. They couldn't find me."

Lies is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series WBAI And NPR Playhouse. It was originally broadcast in 1982.


'Lies' is available at the Joe Frank channel on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIG636ri4r8

Synopsis

A guy tries to avoid the draft by claiming he took LSD.

3:20: Joe tells of someone (unnamed) serving in Vietnam in Army intelligence.

15:40: A fellow remembers covering the big anti-war Mayday demonstration in DC.[1] A woman threw them her key so they (he and his photographer) could escape a police sweep.

20:20: Joe tells of 2 radical co-eds at Berkeley who participate in all sorts of protest movements, anticipate a coming revolution. They stage a bank robbery to demonstrate the weakness of 'the system'. They kill a guard, go on the lam. They go to a small Oregon town where they live as 'lower-middle-class average American women' and suppress their political opinions, then move to a city, then a farmhouse. They become lovers. They move between small towns every few months.[2]

29:40: A fellow says most people's pain results from self-absorption. When politics was important to him and the war was raging; he imagined confronting Mendel Rivers, chairman of the House armed services committee.[3] He sees Rivers on a flight, talking with his daughter, felt his humanity, left him alone.[4]

32:30: Joe tells story of fellow meeting a girl in a deli then visiting her. She has a room-mate who makes plaster sculptures of bagels and cream cheese. She repeatedly flirts then withdraws; he doesn't believe the stories she tells.[5]

44:20: Joe's a night watchman. He invites the boss for dinner, poisons him, gets his job; the new night watchman poisons him at dinner.[6] [7]

Legacy Synopsis
  • A guy avoids the draft by pretending to take drugs.
  • A military intelligence officer at a translation center in Vietnam during the war.
  • A pair of radical women screw up a revolutionary bank robbery and go on the run.
  • A man talks about having been politically active.
  • A man meets a woman in a deli; "it had the cadence of witty repartee without the wit;" her roommate makes bagel and cream cheese paperweights, he goes to her place later. She tells him about a rape long ago, about a marriage to a man who shits in bed.
  • Joe is a social climbing night watchman, lists things he must do every night, discusses office people.
  • Scenes from the office - a board room filled with terror, one with giggling idiots, a woman shouts colors against a background of machinery.
  • Joe buries his boss and takes his place.

Music

Shared material

Additional credits

The original broadcast credits state: "[D]irected by Arthur Miller, and mixed by Sharon Shapiro. Sound by David Rapkin. The performers were Larry Massett, F. Murray Abraham, Barbara Sohmers, Christina Moore, Tim Jerome, Mark Hammer, Arthur Miller, Jane Hunt, and Joe Frank."

Miscellanea

  • The "Night Watchman" segment was broadcast as the conclusion of All Things Considered on Halloween, October 31, 1979.
  • The first 30 minutes of the 1985 Martin Scorcese comedy After Hours plagiarizes the plot setup and portions of woman-in-the-deli segment from "Lies". Joe recounts learning about this plagiarism in the extended version of No Show, and his decision to accept a settlement and remain uncredited on the film. Coincidentally, Larry Block appears as a taxi driver in the film, a role that originates with this episode.
  • Joe's response to an "After Hours" question on his user forum in 2007:

    "Lies" was a show produced for National Public Radio in 1982. It included a ten-minute segment about an encounter years earlier with a strange young woman in Greenwich Village. I was living in Washington, D.C. at the time of the broadcast, producing programs for NPR. In September 1985 a friend called from New York. He asked if I'd seen Scorsese's new film, "After Hours." I told him it hadn't yet opened in D.C. He said, "Fly up to New York today and see it. It will be worth it." He wouldn't explain why.
    So I took a cab to National Airport, caught the next flight to La Guardia, took another cab to the movie theater in Manhattan and saw the film. It was an astonishing experience because, within the first few minutes, I observed the identical story from my radio show unfolding on the screen word for word. Let me add, however, that having used my story as the foundation for his screenplay, the remainder of the film was the work of the writer. It's an exaggeration to suggest the entire film was based on my radio show. But I didn't know until your post that the original title had been "Lies." What must the screenwriter have been thinking to place himself in such jeopardy?
    In any case, I had not yet met Larry Block in 1982, so it was a surprise to find, years later, that we both had a connection to "After Hours."
    Scorsese is a great American film director and "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull" are classics. But I thought "After Hours" was inferior. Maybe the film was too close for me to see clearly.[8]

Commentary

  • The only women's voices are people working at the night watchman's business. I think the same actor speaks the first and third segment, perhaps the fifth. Mark Hammer was old enough to have had their experiences and lived in Washington at the time. I don't hear Tim Jerome or Arthur Miller in them; I don't know F. Murray Abraham's voice well enough to guess.Arthur Peabody (talk) 20:06, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

External links

Footnotes

  1. Must have been 1971 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_May_Day_protests
  2. This is similar to the stories of Susan Edith Saxe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Edith_Saxe and Katherine Ann Power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Ann_Power
  3. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Mendel_Rivers
  4. Rivers died in 1970, so this had to have preceded the 1971 protests.
  5. The writer of Martin Scorsese's After hours plagiarized this story http://andrewhearst.com/blog/2008/05/the_scandalous_origins_of_martin_scorseses_after_hours
  6. Joe re-uses the sounds of the business in Black Light.
  7. A version of this story was aired in All things considered when Joe hosted it
  8. JoeFrank.com forum. March 5, 2007.