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|data8 = [[:Category:Karma Style|Karma Style]], 58 minutes
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|title = [https://www.joefrank.com/shop/stoner Stoner][https://www.joefrank.com/streaming/shows/?jfsearch=Stoner]
|title = [https://www.joefrank.com/shop/stoner Stoner][https://www.joefrank.com/streaming/shows/?jfsearch=Stoner]
|data6  = [[Larry Block]], [[David Rapkin]], [[Debi Mae West]], [[Zak Block]], [[Jack Kornfield]], Joe Frank
|data6  = [[Larry Block]], [[David Rapkin]], [[Debi Mae West]], [[Zak Block]], [[Jack Kornfield]], Joe Frank
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''"I stepped into a gob of spit on the floor of his room last night."''
''"I stepped into a gob of spit on the floor of his room last night."''


'''Stoner''' is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series [[The Other Side]]. It was originally broadcast on July 22, [[2001]].
'''Stoner''' is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series [[The Other Side (Series)|The Other Side]]. It was originally broadcast on July 22, [[:Category:2001|2001]].


== Synopsis ==
== Synopsis ==
Larry tells Joe that Zachary spat on the floor of his
bedroom.<ref>Remember that Zachary moved into the master bedroom,
Jolly and Larry into his improvised alcove bedroom in [[Karma (Part 4)]];
Larry kept using the master bedroom's bathroom.</ref>


0:30: Larry tells Joe that he and Zachary spent the day together.
Zachary had had a long conversation with his aunt (Bev, Jolly's
sister) in the morning; the aunt told Zachary that Larry wanted
Zachary to fail because he's a failure.  Jolly was unsympathetic.
2:40: Joe tells Larry continuing to live at home is cowardice; Larry
agrees.
3:20: Larry recounts Zachary's (non)-performance in softball and
soccer as a kid.
4:00: Jack Kornfield recounts how Japanese soldiers abandoned on
Pacific islands for years after the war, how the Japanese welcomed
them back: thanked, given a hero's welcome.
7:00: Larry tells Joe about a job he got delivering a car to a body
shop then picking it up, how he took payment in dope.
8:40: Joe asks David Rapkin about an alternative career he had
fantasized about.  Rapkin recounts imagining being a foreign
correspondent, spins a tale about covering a battle in drag.
14:50: Jack Kornfield talks about how we can fail in our efforts to be
mindful, let fear or appetites take over.
16:50: Debi tells Joe about the visit of Malcolm's kids.  She objects
to the junk food they eat.  The kids are unhappy, want to stay with
his wife.  This, along with her PMS, makes her feel terrible.
22:10: Kornfield says [[Wikipedia:D%C5%8Dgen|Zen master Dogen]]
said that a Zen master's life is one mistake after another, that the
point is to accept things as they are.
24:00: Debi tries to reconcile with Malcolm's children.
29:50: Larry tells Joe that he asked Zachary to stay around home that
day.  Zachary wants to smoke Larry's dope.  Larry tells Joe he doesn't
like grass that much.  Joe points out that Larry's behavior
contradicts this claim.  Larry and Zachary smoke dope; Larry eats too
much, feels bloated.  Larry remembers his youth, that he just wanted
to feel good, can see that Zachary's behavior is alike.
37:00: Jack Kornfield tells about
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Kabat-Zinn Jon Kabat-Zinn], who
started his practice in the basement of a hospital in Massachusetts,
seeing the patients the physicians could do no more for, teaching them
mindfulness.
39:20: Larry tells Joe that he doesn't want to get a job, wants to
retire.  He wrote a poem inspired by
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bonnard (Pierre) Bonnard]'s
[https://uploads3.wikiart.org/images/pierre-bonnard/the-terrace-at-vernon-1939.jpg 'Terrace at Vernon']
42:10: David Rapkin recounts imagining being a merchant seaman in an
alternate life, the fantastic adventures he had.
45:00: Kornfield talks about
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Nh%E1%BA%A5t_H%E1%BA%A1nh Th&iacute;ch Nhat Hanh]'s
new book.  Hanh wrote about giving a talk, when he started talking
about a nun he fell in love with, people perked up.  Kornfield then
tells a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Thomas Lewis Thomas]
story about how a female moth's pheromones make the male moth feel
like flying.
48:50: Larry tells Joe about Doris Peterson, who owns a loft in Soho.
Her husband, Dick, did little.  His wife came to hate him, kicked him
out.  He moved in with his mother, then, after she died, a room in a
run-down house.  Larry says that Jolly began to compare him to Dick.
54:50: Kornfield recommends letting go of fear, living in the present,
accepting the world as it is.
55:50: Larry talks about driving his old MG as far as he can, living
where it dies.
56:40: Kornfield says that when we realize that everything changes and
accept that, we're in nirvana.
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%; overflow:auto;">
<div style="font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">Legacy Synopsis</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
*[[Jack Kornfield]]: Accounts of Japanese solders left behind in WWII.  Struggles of the self and being lost.
*[[Jack Kornfield]]: Accounts of Japanese solders left behind in WWII.  Struggles of the self and being lost.
*Larry: Odd jobs - alternative payments.
*Larry: Odd jobs - alternative payments.
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*David: Might have chosen to be a merchant marine.
*David: Might have chosen to be a merchant marine.
*Kornfield: Alternating stories of loving kindness and beauty with teachings of Dharma.
*Kornfield: Alternating stories of loving kindness and beauty with teachings of Dharma.
 
</div></div>
== Music ==
== Music ==
{{Romantic Love (DJ Cam)}}
{{Romantic Love (DJ Cam)}} [0:20]
{{Sex (The Necks)}}
{{Sex (The Necks)}} [16:34]
{{Spiritual Healing (Toots Hibbert)}}
{{Spiritual Healing (Toots Hibbert)}} [29:34]
 
== Commentary ==
{{Commentary}}
 
=== [[User:Brandonnn|Brandonnn]] ===


Larry writes a poem about a Bonnard painting, The Terrace at Vernonnet, in this episode. You can see it [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/489687 here at The Met's website].
== Miscellanea ==
*Larry writes a poem about a Bonnard painting, The Terrace at Vernonnet, in this episode. You can see it [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/489687 here at The Met's website]. - [[User:Brandonnn|Brandonnn]]


I recommend a trip to Vernon when you're in Paris.  It's a nice little
town accessible by commuter train.  Monet lived at Giverny, a village
about 2 km away, a pleasant walk.  It has his lily pond.  It's a
little museum now.[[User:Arthur Peabody|Arthur Peabody]] ([[User talk:Arthur Peabody|talk]]) 23:14, 19 February 2022 (EST)


==Footnotes==
[[Category: Karma Style]]
[[Category: Karma Style]]
[[Category:Larry Block]] [[Category:David Rapkin]] [[Category:Debi Mae West]] [[Category:Zak Block]]  
[[Category:Larry Block]] [[Category:David Rapkin]] [[Category:Debi Mae West]] [[Category:Zak Block]]  
[[Category:Jack Kornfield]][[Category:2001]]
[[Category:Jack Kornfield]][[Category:2001]]
[[Category:Show]]
[[Category:Show]]
[[Category:The Other Side]] [[Category:Show_by_date|20010722]] {{Airdate|airdate=2001-07-22}}
[[Category:The Other Side]] [[Category:Show_by_date|20010722]] {{Airdate|airdate=2001-07-22}}{{Series|series=The Other Side}}{{Cast|cast=[[Larry Block]], [[David Rapkin]], [[Debi Mae West]], [[Zak Block]], [[Jack Kornfield]], Joe Frank}}

Latest revision as of 05:47, 15 March 2022

Stoner[1]
Series
The Other Side
Original Broadcast Date
7/22/2001
Cast
Larry Block, David Rapkin, Debi Mae West, Zak Block, Jack Kornfield, Joe Frank
Format
Karma Style, 58 minutes
Preceded by: Margarita
Followed by: Men Of The Cloth

"I stepped into a gob of spit on the floor of his room last night."

Stoner is a program Joe Frank produced as part of the series The Other Side. It was originally broadcast on July 22, 2001.

Synopsis

Larry tells Joe that Zachary spat on the floor of his bedroom.[1]

0:30: Larry tells Joe that he and Zachary spent the day together. Zachary had had a long conversation with his aunt (Bev, Jolly's sister) in the morning; the aunt told Zachary that Larry wanted Zachary to fail because he's a failure. Jolly was unsympathetic.

2:40: Joe tells Larry continuing to live at home is cowardice; Larry agrees.

3:20: Larry recounts Zachary's (non)-performance in softball and soccer as a kid.

4:00: Jack Kornfield recounts how Japanese soldiers abandoned on Pacific islands for years after the war, how the Japanese welcomed them back: thanked, given a hero's welcome.

7:00: Larry tells Joe about a job he got delivering a car to a body shop then picking it up, how he took payment in dope.

8:40: Joe asks David Rapkin about an alternative career he had fantasized about. Rapkin recounts imagining being a foreign correspondent, spins a tale about covering a battle in drag.

14:50: Jack Kornfield talks about how we can fail in our efforts to be mindful, let fear or appetites take over.

16:50: Debi tells Joe about the visit of Malcolm's kids. She objects to the junk food they eat. The kids are unhappy, want to stay with his wife. This, along with her PMS, makes her feel terrible.

22:10: Kornfield says Zen master Dogen said that a Zen master's life is one mistake after another, that the point is to accept things as they are.

24:00: Debi tries to reconcile with Malcolm's children.

29:50: Larry tells Joe that he asked Zachary to stay around home that day. Zachary wants to smoke Larry's dope. Larry tells Joe he doesn't like grass that much. Joe points out that Larry's behavior contradicts this claim. Larry and Zachary smoke dope; Larry eats too much, feels bloated. Larry remembers his youth, that he just wanted to feel good, can see that Zachary's behavior is alike.

37:00: Jack Kornfield tells about Jon Kabat-Zinn, who started his practice in the basement of a hospital in Massachusetts, seeing the patients the physicians could do no more for, teaching them mindfulness.

39:20: Larry tells Joe that he doesn't want to get a job, wants to retire. He wrote a poem inspired by (Pierre) Bonnard's 'Terrace at Vernon'

42:10: David Rapkin recounts imagining being a merchant seaman in an alternate life, the fantastic adventures he had.

45:00: Kornfield talks about Thích Nhat Hanh's new book. Hanh wrote about giving a talk, when he started talking about a nun he fell in love with, people perked up. Kornfield then tells a Lewis Thomas story about how a female moth's pheromones make the male moth feel like flying.

48:50: Larry tells Joe about Doris Peterson, who owns a loft in Soho. Her husband, Dick, did little. His wife came to hate him, kicked him out. He moved in with his mother, then, after she died, a room in a run-down house. Larry says that Jolly began to compare him to Dick.

54:50: Kornfield recommends letting go of fear, living in the present, accepting the world as it is.

55:50: Larry talks about driving his old MG as far as he can, living where it dies.

56:40: Kornfield says that when we realize that everything changes and accept that, we're in nirvana.

Legacy Synopsis
  • Jack Kornfield: Accounts of Japanese solders left behind in WWII. Struggles of the self and being lost.
  • Larry: Odd jobs - alternative payments.
  • David Rapkin: arriving into a war torn town.
  • Kornfield: Sitting and falling in love and an upwelling of emotions.
  • Debi Mae West: Sodas are bad, relationship with a man married to get another women a green card.
  • Kornfield: "A Zen master's life is a continous mistake."
  • Debi: Controlling herself to keep the relationship.
  • Kornfield: Awareness/mindfulness as medicine
  • David: Might have chosen to be a merchant marine.
  • Kornfield: Alternating stories of loving kindness and beauty with teachings of Dharma.

Music

Miscellanea

I recommend a trip to Vernon when you're in Paris. It's a nice little town accessible by commuter train. Monet lived at Giverny, a village about 2 km away, a pleasant walk. It has his lily pond. It's a little museum now.Arthur Peabody (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2022 (EST)

Footnotes

  1. Remember that Zachary moved into the master bedroom, Jolly and Larry into his improvised alcove bedroom in Karma (Part 4); Larry kept using the master bedroom's bathroom.